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demdemtroi
#1 Posted : Friday, September 06, 2013 9:59:11 PM(UTC)
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9) I was awakened by the sound of a laughter which came from the room which was next to mine at the motel.
==> 9) I was awakened by the sound of a laughter coming  from the room which was next to mine at the motel.
11) Dalat, which is best known for foreign travellers, has pleasant weather.
===> 11) Dalat, best known for foreign travellers, has pleasant weather.
12) Animals that are born in a zoo generally adjust to captivity better than those that are captured in the wild.
===>12) Animals  born in a zoo generally adjust to captivity better than those that are captured in the wild.
13) Few tourists ever see a jaguar, which is a spotted wild cat that is native to tropical America.
===>13) Few tourists ever see a jaguar, a spotted wild cat that is native to tropical America.
15) The floor is dusty but I haven't got a brush with which I can sweep it.
===>15) The floor is dusty but I haven't got a brush to sweep with it.
19) The mistakes which you have to correct are very important.
===>19) The mistakes for you  to correct are very important.

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9) I was awakened by the sound of a laughter which came from the room which was next to mine at the motel.
==> 9) I was awakened by the sound of a laughter coming  from the room which was next to mine at the motel.
11) Dalat, which is best known for foreign travellers, has pleasant weather.
===> 11) Dalat, best known for foreign travellers, has pleasant weather.
12) Animals that are born in a zoo generally adjust to captivity better than those that are captured in the wild.
===>12) Animals  born in a zoo generally adjust to captivity better than those that are captured in the wild.
13) Few tourists ever see a jaguar, which is a spotted wild cat that is native to tropical America.
===>13) Few tourists ever see a jaguar, a spotted wild cat that is native to tropical America.
15) The floor is dusty but I haven't got a brush with which I can sweep it.
===>15) The floor is dusty but I haven't got a brush to sweep with it.
19) The mistakes which you have to correct are very important.
===>19) The mistakes for you  to correct are very important.
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#3 Posted : Saturday, September 07, 2013 6:15:20 PM(UTC)
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9) I was awakened by the sound of a laughter which came from the room which was next to mine at the motel.
==> 9) I was awakened by the sound of a laughter coming  from the room which was next to mine at the motel.
11) Dalat, which is best known for foreign travellers, has pleasant weather.
===> 11) Dalat, best known for foreign travellers, has pleasant weather.
12) Animals that are born in a zoo generally adjust to captivity better than those that are captured in the wild.
===>12) Animals  born in a zoo generally adjust to captivity better than those that are captured in the wild.
13) Few tourists ever see a jaguar, which is a spotted wild cat that is native to tropical America.
===>13) Few tourists ever see a jaguar, a spotted wild cat that is native to tropical America.
15) The floor is dusty but I haven't got a brush with which I can sweep it.
===>15) The floor is dusty but I haven't got a brush to sweep with it.
19) The mistakes which you have to correct are very important.
===>19) The mistakes for you  to correct are very important.
giỏi


hệ hệ , nhưng thầy ơi câu 9 ý có 2 which, rút gọn which sau được không thầy hay câu ý viết lại bằng cách khác được không thầy?
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#4 Posted : Saturday, September 07, 2013 7:51:56 PM(UTC)
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9) I was awakened by the sound of a laughter which came from the room which was next to mine at the motel.
==> 9) I was awakened by the sound of a laughter coming  from the room which was next to mine at the motel.
11) Dalat, which is best known for foreign travellers, has pleasant weather.
===> 11) Dalat, best known for foreign travellers, has pleasant weather.
12) Animals that are born in a zoo generally adjust to captivity better than those that are captured in the wild.
===>12) Animals  born in a zoo generally adjust to captivity better than those that are captured in the wild.
13) Few tourists ever see a jaguar, which is a spotted wild cat that is native to tropical America.
===>13) Few tourists ever see a jaguar, a spotted wild cat that is native to tropical America.
15) The floor is dusty but I haven't got a brush with which I can sweep it.
===>15) The floor is dusty but I haven't got a brush to sweep with it.
19) The mistakes which you have to correct are very important.
===>19) The mistakes for you  to correct are very important.
giỏi

hệ hệ , nhưng thầy ơi câu 9 ý có 2 which, rút gọn which sau được không thầy hay câu ý viết lại bằng cách khác được không thầy?



mình nghĩ là đc

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#5 Posted : Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:13:59 PM(UTC)
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9) I was awakened by the sound of a laughter which came from the room which was next to mine at the motel.
==> 9) I was awakened by the sound of a laughter coming  from the room which was next to mine at the motel.
11) Dalat, which is best known for foreign travellers, has pleasant weather.
===> 11) Dalat, best known for foreign travellers, has pleasant weather.
12) Animals that are born in a zoo generally adjust to captivity better than those that are captured in the wild.
===>12) Animals  born in a zoo generally adjust to captivity better than those that are captured in the wild.
13) Few tourists ever see a jaguar, which is a spotted wild cat that is native to tropical America.
===>13) Few tourists ever see a jaguar, a spotted wild cat that is native to tropical America.
15) The floor is dusty but I haven't got a brush with which I can sweep it.
===>15) The floor is dusty but I haven't got a brush to sweep with it.
19) The mistakes which you have to correct are very important.
===>19) The mistakes for you  to correct are very important.
giỏi

hệ hệ , nhưng thầy ơi câu 9 ý có 2 which, rút gọn which sau được không thầy hay câu ý viết lại bằng cách khác được không thầy?


Nếu đề kêu rút gọn thì nên rút  cả 2. Cách khác là cách gì? quan tọng là yêu cầu của đề bài kêu làm gì thì làm nấy. Nếu nó kêu rút gọn mà biến cách khác là không được.
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thay oi thay chi giup em su khac nhau giua that va which trong menh de quan he voi a khi nao dung which va khi nao dung that a o nhung de thi toan co nhung cau can su phan biet giua chung em chon nhung toan bi sai a ko hieu the nao thay chi ro giup em voi 


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thay oi sau A NUMBER OF va THE NUMBER OF deu la danh tu so nhieu va dong tu di sau chung cung la dong tu so nhieu.Vay thi su khac nhau giua chung la gi a?
Thay chi cho em cach phan biet giua WHERE va WHICH trong menh de quan he voi.em hay bi lam sai giua hai tu nay.
Con ca su khac nhau giua THAT va WHAT trong menh de danh tu nua thay.em van chua phan biet duoc cach dung cua 2 chu nay
Em cam on thay nhieu a
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9) I was awakened by the sound of a laughter which came from the room which was next to mine at the motel.
==> 9) I was awakened by the sound of a laughter coming  from the room which was next to mine at the motel.
11) Dalat, which is best known for foreign travellers, has pleasant weather.
===> 11) Dalat, best known for foreign travellers, has pleasant weather.
12) Animals that are born in a zoo generally adjust to captivity better than those that are captured in the wild.
===>12) Animals  born in a zoo generally adjust to captivity better than those that are captured in the wild.
13) Few tourists ever see a jaguar, which is a spotted wild cat that is native to tropical America.
===>13) Few tourists ever see a jaguar, a spotted wild cat that is native to tropical America.
15) The floor is dusty but I haven't got a brush with which I can sweep it.
===>15) The floor is dusty but I haven't got a brush to sweep with it.
19) The mistakes which you have to correct are very important.
===>19) The mistakes for you  to correct are very important.
giỏi

hệ hệ , nhưng thầy ơi câu 9 ý có 2 which, rút gọn which sau được không thầy hay câu ý viết lại bằng cách khác được không thầy?

Nếu đề kêu rút gọn thì nên rút  cả 2. Cách khác là cách gì? quan tọng là yêu cầu của đề bài kêu làm gì thì làm nấy. Nếu nó kêu rút gọn mà biến cách khác là không được.

9) I was awakened by the sound of a laughter which came from the room which was next to mine at the motel.
==> 9) I was awakened by the sound of a laughter coming  from the room  next to mine at the motel.

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#9 Posted : Sunday, September 08, 2013 8:21:47 PM(UTC)
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thay oi sau A NUMBER OF va THE NUMBER OF deu la danh tu so nhieu va dong tu di sau chung cung la dong tu so nhieu.Vay thi su khac nhau giua chung la gi a?
Thay chi cho em cach phan biet giua WHERE va WHICH trong menh de quan he voi.em hay bi lam sai giua hai tu nay.
Con ca su khac nhau giua THAT va WHAT trong menh de danh tu nua thay.em van chua phan biet duoc cach dung cua 2 chu nay
Em cam on thay nhieu a

 A number of Ns ( V)-số nhiều : dịch là "nhiều"
the number of Ns ... (V)số ít   : dịch là " số"
where + S + (V)
which +S/(V)/O...
That = Which nhưng không có " giới từ"và "dấu phẩy"  trước "that"
What = that which đằng sau What không có " N"
theo mình biết là vậy nhưng vẫn phải chờ thầy
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9) I was awakened by the sound of a laughter which came from the room which was next to mine at the motel.
==> 9) I was awakened by the sound of a laughter coming  from the room  next to mine  being next to mine mới đúng at the motel.
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#11 Posted : Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:04:49 PM(UTC)
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[quote=Near;72395][quote=demdemtroi;72390]
9) I was awakened by the sound of a laughter which came from the room which was next to mine at the motel.
==> 9) I was awakened by the sound of a laughter coming  from the room  next to mine  being next to mine mới đúng at the motel.
phải không thầy?[/quoe]

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9) I was awakened by the sound of a laughter which came from the room which was next to mine at the motel.
==> 9) I was awakened by the sound of a laughter coming  from the room  next to mine at the motel.
phải không thầy?
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thay oi sau A NUMBER OF va THE NUMBER OF deu la danh tu so nhieu va dong tu di sau chung cung la dong tu so nhieu.Vay thi su khac nhau giua chung la gi a?
Thay chi cho em cach phan biet giua WHERE va WHICH trong menh de quan he voi.em hay bi lam sai giua hai tu nay.
Con ca su khac nhau giua THAT va WHAT trong menh de danh tu nua thay.em van chua phan biet duoc cach dung cua 2 chu nay
Em cam on thay nhieu a

A NUMBER OF: 1 số .... ( V số nhiều)
THE NUMBER OF: con số ( V số ít)

Where = giới từ + which
Ví dụ:
This is the house. I live in it.
=> This is the house which I live in.
Đem giới từ in lên trước:
This is the house in which I live.
Thay in which = where:
This is the house where I live.

MỆNH ĐỀ DANH TỪ VỚI WHAT VÀ THAT

Khác biệt cơ bản:
Sau THAT là một mệnh đề đầy đủ.
Sau WHAT là một mệnh đề trong đó còn thiếu túc từ.
Ví dụ:
 That he took it is obvious.
He took it không thiếu túc từ nên dùng THAT.

 What he took is unknown.
He took thiếu túc từ nên dùng WHAT.
Chức năng của mệnh đề danh từ:
MĐDT có chức năng như một danh từ (làm chủ từ, túc từ&hellipWink
Ví dụ:
  What he is holding is nice. (làm chủ từ)
 I think that he is a student. (làm túc từ)
Mệnh đề danh từ bắt đầu bằng chữ hỏi KHÔNG ĐƯỢC đảo ngữ.
I don’t know what are you eating. => sai
Mệnh đề danh từ bắt đầu bằng chữ hỏi KHÔNG ĐƯỢC có dấu chấm hỏi.
I don’t know what you are eating? => sai

 

                                           ---------*--------------------------
                            Do you know what he is eating?

                                Câu trên đúng hay sai? Why?

Phạm vi ứng dụng:
Thông thường người ta sẽ cho một khoảng trống rồi đến động từ. Nhiệm vụ của thí sinh là tìm đáp án nào có thể làm chủ từ để điền vào.
__?___ v ……
Luôn luôn nhớ:
  Một câu không thể làm chủ từ.
Ví dụ:
He stole my pen is true. (sai vì chủ từ là một câu)
That he stole my pen is true. (đúng vì chủ từ là một mệnh đề danh từ)
Phương pháp phân tích câu:
- Gặp mệnh đề quan hệ thì bỏ đi để cho câu gọn, dễ nhìn thấy lỗi cấu trúc.
____________ who became the first woman to be elected to the council.
a.    It was Jenifer Grant    b.    Jenifer Grant
c.    Jenifer Grant, when she    d.    That Jenifer Grant

Ta thấy câu đề, từ who về sau là MĐQH nên bỏ nó đi. Nếu chọn B,C,D thì phần còn lại đều không trong 1 câu nên sai hết.

Chọn a vì:
Bỏ mệnh đề quan hệ:
  a. It was Jenifer Grant (who became the first woman to be elected to the council.)
Còn lại:
It was Jenifer Grant.
Như vậy ta còn lại một câu đầy đủ => đúng

 

                                                        BÀI TẬP ỨNG DỤNG
•1. _____ he has a big dog is true.
a.What
b.That
c.Which
d.Why
•2. ____ she likes is only a pen.
a.What
b.That
c.Who
d.Why
•. 3. Thefilm _____ he likes is _____ I like.

a. what- what

b. what- that

c. that- that

d. that - what



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19) The mistakes which you have to correct are very important.
===>19) The mistakes for you  to correct are very important.



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19) The mistakes which you have to correct are very important.
===>19) The mistakes for you  to correct are very important.



Câu này hình như bị đổi cấu trúc rồi mà phải không thầy Cucku?
Chỉ biến hóa chút thôi, dùng khi đại từ quan hệ không phải là chủ từ ( thêm for sb)
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19) The mistakes which you have to correct are very important.
===>19) The mistakes for you to correct are very important.
thầy ơi, câu này chỉ cần bỏ which đi có được không?
The mistakes you have to correct are very important.
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19) The mistakes which you have to correct are very important.
===>19) The mistakes for you to correct are very important.
thầy ơi, câu này chỉ cần bỏ which đi có được không?
The mistakes you have to correct are very important.


đc, the mistakes làm tân ngữ mà
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#19 Posted : Monday, September 09, 2013 8:45:55 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: babylon_riverkute Go to Quoted Post
19) The mistakes which you have to correct are very important.
===>19) The mistakes for you to correct are very important.
thầy ơi, câu này chỉ cần bỏ which đi có được không?
The mistakes you have to correct are very important.
Được nhưng cái này không gọi là "rút gọn" mệnh đề quan hệ nữa mà gọi là "lược bỏ" đại từ quan hệ. Hai cái này hoàn toàn khác nhau về cấu trúc. Rút gọn là biến đổi cấu trúc từ mệnh đề sang cụm từ, còn lược bỏ là giữ nguyên không biến đổi gì cả mà chỉ việc bỏ đi đại từ quan hệ ( nhưng thực chất dù không viết ra nhưng vẫn phải hiểu nó có mặt ở đó.)
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